tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725975489373372070.post6502039231051155864..comments2024-03-02T17:35:58.818-08:00Comments on Spike is Best: More HobbitPaul Stilwellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04446241126728692642noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725975489373372070.post-59246995687819905562013-01-09T18:43:30.988-08:002013-01-09T18:43:30.988-08:00Heh, now that I think about it, from the book stan...Heh, now that I think about it, from the book standpoint it's a "pivotal" scene - the one that first carries the reader into the adventure. In the book the scene has life and charm and a certain cadence. They should have realized that potential for the movie, and that for a film it would be even more important to get that part just right, but they blew it.Paul Stilwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04446241126728692642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725975489373372070.post-4494931732968268872013-01-09T18:35:03.616-08:002013-01-09T18:35:03.616-08:00Funny, I think it was when I got a look at the fir...Funny, I think it was when I got a look at the first "dwarf" entering Bilbo's home that I thought, "Oh, no..."jvchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06595545071847235650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725975489373372070.post-62060368522077161402013-01-09T10:49:05.134-08:002013-01-09T10:49:05.134-08:00But there was and is no way that argument over The...But there was and is no way that argument over The Hobbit equates enjoyment for me. I was joking somewhat. I wanted to leave the theater as soon as the first dwarf came barging into Bilbo's hole and rudely threw his coat at him.Paul Stilwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04446241126728692642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725975489373372070.post-14610085919951854492013-01-09T10:45:17.695-08:002013-01-09T10:45:17.695-08:00I'll bet you're right.
They are like the ...I'll bet you're right.<br /><br />They are like the international conspirators in that they cannot actually create - only manipulate.<br /><br />Paul Stilwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04446241126728692642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725975489373372070.post-14547754405625332432013-01-09T04:35:11.174-08:002013-01-09T04:35:11.174-08:00+JMJ+
To refine the point some more . . .
Yes,...+JMJ+ <br /><br />To refine the point some more . . . <br /><br />Yes, arguing about a movie is a legitimate way to enjoy it. But what we have here are people who make a movie that we will argue about in order to make us think we actually enjoyed it. <br /><br />Now where is my tinfoil hat? ;-) Enbrethilielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03414765854670926854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725975489373372070.post-2874365125085916402013-01-09T03:51:51.601-08:002013-01-09T03:51:51.601-08:00+JMJ+
Actually, Stilwell, I was being ironic abo...+JMJ+ <br /><br />Actually, Stilwell, I was being ironic about debating over movies being a legitimate form of film enjoyment. =P The debates themselves are indeed enjoyable, but it does not follow that the filmmakers should <i>intend</i> them. <br /><br />I'm starting to wonder if these folk deliberately inject controversial elements that they know people will argue over, in order to trigger the mental association between argument and enjoyment. At the very least, there is no incentive for them to make a movie that is <i>not</i> controversial and that people can enjoy without sparring with each other afterwards. <br /><br />That is, I think the "culture of discussion" is not merely fed by the new adaptation of <i>The Hobbit</i>, but actually helped to pave the way for it. This makes movies a little less "honest," if you know what I mean. And I think you do! George Lucas's unfortunate Jar Jar Binks may have been an inspired character that Lucas really believed would add something to the story. You can't even say as much about Peter Jackson's version of Radagast. He didn't want Radagast to impress us as much as he wanted Radagast to get us talking . . . and arguing . . . and blogging. The audience of <i>The Hobbit</i> is as manipulated as the people who watch concert DVDs at home. <br /><br />I only feel safe arguing about movies that came out before the Internet became popular--and even then I'm on shaky ground! =P Enbrethilielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03414765854670926854noreply@blogger.com